Legislature(2019 - 2020)DAVIS 106

02/19/2020 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

Note: the audio and video recordings are distinct records and are obtained from different sources. As such there may be key differences between the two. The audio recordings are captured by our records offices as the official record of the meeting and will have more accurate timestamps. Use the icons to switch between them.

Download Mp3. <- Right click and save file as

* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Teleconference <Listen Only> --
+= HB 155 AK PERFORMANCE SCHOLARSHIP; ELIGIBILITY TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 181 PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
         HB 181-PUBLIC SCHOOLS: MENTAL HEALTH EDUCATION                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:52:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  181 "An  Act relating to  mental health                                                               
education."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:52:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MATT  CLAMAN, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor, presented  HB 181.   He cited  the Alaska  Department of                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services  (DHSS)   2017  Alaska  Youth  Risk                                                               
Behavior Survey  results, which showed  that of the  1,343 ninth-                                                               
through  twelfth-grade  students  in forty  high  schools  across                                                               
Alaska, one  in three students  experienced a  depressive episode                                                               
in  the  twelve  months  preceding  the survey.    He  cited  the                                                               
Substance  Abuse and  Mental Health  Services National  Survey on                                                               
Drug Use  and Health, in  which estimates  show that in  2015 and                                                               
2016, 15  percent of  adolescents aged  12-17 reported  that they                                                               
had  at least  one  major  depressive episode  in  the 12  months                                                               
preceding the  survey.  He  noted that both surveys  are included                                                               
in the committee packet.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  said  that   HB  181  would  require  the                                                               
Department  of  Education  & Early  Development  (DEED)  and  the                                                               
Alaska  Board  of  Education  &   Early  Development  to  develop                                                               
guidelines  for  instruction  in   mental  health  education,  in                                                               
consultation   with   DHSS   counselors,   educators,   students,                                                               
administrators,  and  representatives  from  state  and  national                                                               
mental  health   organizations  including  rural   native  health                                                               
organizations.  State and national  organizations include but are                                                               
not  limited to:   the  National council  for Behavioral  Health,                                                               
Providence  Health &  Services  Alaska, Southcentral  Foundation,                                                               
Anchorage  Community Mental  Health  Services,  Inc., North  Star                                                               
Behavioral  Health System,  and the  National Alliance  on Mental                                                               
Illness in  Alaska.  He said  DEED would then be  responsible for                                                               
the  implementation  of  the  guidelines  statewide  through  the                                                               
health education  curricula, and DEED,  DHSS, and the  Council on                                                               
Domestic  Violence  and Sexual  Assault  -  Alaska would  provide                                                               
technical guidance to districts  in the development of curricula.                                                               
He  asserted that  the  State  of Alaska  is  obligated to  treat                                                               
mental health problems facing Alaska's  youth as a serious public                                                               
health  issue.   He suggested  that  HB 181  would reduce  stigma                                                               
associated with mental illness and  increase student knowledge by                                                               
having conversations on and around this issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:55:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SOPHIE  JONAS, Staff,  Representative Matt  Claman, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  HB  181   on  behalf  of  Representative                                                               
Claman,  prime  sponsor.   She  stated  that  the intent  of  the                                                               
legislation is  that the Board  of Education &  Early Development                                                               
would  develop guidelines  for instruction  in  mental health  in                                                               
consultation with  mental health organizations.   She stated that                                                               
under the  proposed legislation,  AS 14.30.360 would  be modified                                                               
to remove the word "physical"  when referring to health education                                                               
instruction and  add "mental health"  as a curriculum item  to be                                                               
included in  district health education  programs.  She  said that                                                               
under the  proposed legislation, AS 14.30.360  would clarify that                                                               
health guidelines  developed by the  Alaska Board of  Education &                                                               
Early  Development  must  provide standards  for  instruction  on                                                               
mental health  and shall be  developed in consultation  with DHSS                                                               
and  representatives   of  national   and  state   mental  health                                                               
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:56:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY referred to  student testimony in support                                                               
of  HB 181  provided on  February 24,  2020, and  recounted their                                                               
expressed shared  need for  mental health  education.   She asked                                                               
how the "subject  matter expert contractor" listed  in the fiscal                                                               
note   and   the   individuals  representing   the   variety   of                                                               
professional organizations listed in the bill would be selected.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:58:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  answered  that  the  fiscal  note  for  a                                                               
contractor  was   unexpected,  and  he  suggested   that  it  was                                                               
unnecessary due  to the  assumption that  the state  has adequate                                                               
resources  to conduct  the facilitation  described  therein.   He                                                               
referred  to committee  packet items  showing current  standards,                                                               
and he said  the proposed changes are not  substantive enough [at                                                               
the  state  level]  to  warrant   a  contracted  facilitator  for                                                               
implementation.  He suggested that  local districts would develop                                                               
curricula based  upon their  local circumstances  and needs.   He                                                               
acknowledged  that  statewide  conferencing  might  require  some                                                               
coordination; however, he opined  that limited conferencing could                                                               
be coordinated with existing resources.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:02:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY  requested  that a  representative  from                                                               
DEED provide a response to her question.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:02:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMARA  VAN   WHYE,  Division   Director,  Educator   and  School                                                               
Excellence   Division,   Department    of   Education   &   Early                                                               
Development, answered  that the  fiscal note includes  funds that                                                               
would  be used  to update  standards  in health  education.   She                                                               
noted that the department's "Skills  for a Healthy Life" have not                                                               
been  updated in  more  than 20  years.   She  noted that  health                                                               
education standards are voluntary, and  that a minor change would                                                               
likely  not  result  in  widespread   adoption  of  the  changes;                                                               
therefore,  the minor  change would  likely  not have  widespread                                                               
impact across the  state.  She noted that there  is a process for                                                               
standards  review and  update  panel  member selection  including                                                               
open calls to credentialed individuals to participate.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:04:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  asked what the selection  process itself                                                               
and contractor selection process would entail.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:05:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   VAN   WHYE  answered   that   regional   and  grade   level                                                               
representation  credentials  are   taken  into  consideration  in                                                               
selecting  individuals from  outside  organizations  in order  to                                                               
represent all of  Alaska.  She added that a  facilitator would be                                                               
selected after development of scope  and subject matter expertise                                                               
and would be solicited through state procurement processes.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:06:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ZULKOSKY  allowed that the standards  are "clearly                                                               
outdated"; however,  also taking  into consideration  advances in                                                               
technology, she opined that the  wholesale review of standards in                                                               
order  to meet  the needs  of this  bill is  a "peculiar"  fiscal                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:07:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND asked  about  the goal  of  school health  and                                                               
safety  within  Alaska's   Education  Challenge,  whether  mental                                                               
health   education  [as   proposed  by   HB  181]   furthers  the                                                               
advancement toward that  goal.  She asked  whether the department                                                               
has  a schedule  for updating  standards, and  why the  standards                                                               
have not been updated in excess of 20 years.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. VAN WHYE answered that  regarding the health and safety goal,                                                               
mental  health  education  and   trauma  informed  schools  would                                                               
advance that  goal.  She indicated  that there is a  schedule for                                                               
updating standards prioritized by need,  and that those for math,                                                               
language  arts, and  science are  standards  which contribute  to                                                               
test scores  and are therefore  higher priority.  She  would need                                                               
to investigate  health and safety standards  timeline for update.                                                               
She added  that since health  education standards  are voluntary,                                                               
they are updated at a lower priority.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND requested  copies of  Transforming Schools:  A                                                             
Framework for Trauma-Engaged Schools  in Alaska for the committee                                                             
members.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:12:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:12 a.m. to 9:15 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  played a  YouTube film produced  by Mental                                                               
Health Advocates  Through Storytelling  (MHATS) in support  of HB
181.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:19:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND asked  whether HB 181 would  make mental health                                                               
education mandatory.   She added  that it seems that  students in                                                               
Alaska are asking to make this mandatory.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:19:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN  answered   that  under  current  statute,                                                               
districts   are  not   required   to   follow  health   education                                                               
guidelines.  He  suggested that the committee may  amend the bill                                                               
to include language to make mental health education mandatory.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:20:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR STORY expressed support for  HB 181, along with concerns                                                               
regarding  effective implementation  through  the exiting  health                                                               
education   guidelines,   recognizing  reduced   school   funding                                                               
statewide.   She noted that  HB 181 would  require implementation                                                               
of  mental   health  education  through  school   counselors  and                                                               
existing  health educators,  and  that, for  example, the  Juneau                                                               
School District has  only 1 counselor for 450 students  and 1 for                                                               
500  students,  for the  two  high  schools, respectively.    She                                                               
suggested that  implementation of  the bill would  be akin  to an                                                               
unfunded  mandate.   She  stated  her  belief that  the  proposed                                                               
legislation is very important, and  the implementation is equally                                                               
important.    She suggested  that  education  of students  cannot                                                               
effectively  take  place  without  addressing  underlying  mental                                                               
health issues among students.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN noted that  there has been discussion about                                                               
adding  counselors  and  adding social  workers  into  districts;                                                               
however, HB 181 would be  implemented by health teachers into the                                                               
classroom.    He  added  that budget  cuts  have  precipitated  a                                                               
decline  in resources  throughout  the state  resulting in  fewer                                                               
counselors and social workers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:24:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ZULKOSKY  suggested  that without  mental  health                                                               
education, students can and would  seek information on their own,                                                               
which puts them at risk for misinformation.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:25:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  DRUMMOND  opined  that  HB  181  could  be  implemented                                                               
throughout  many academic  curricula.   She asked  Representative                                                               
Claman  whether  he was  aware  of  any curricula  developed  and                                                               
implemented for mental health in any district in Alaska.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:25:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CLAMAN   answered  that   there  is   caution  in                                                               
conversations about  the implementation  of the proposed  bill as                                                               
to avoid  an unfunded  mandate.  He  suggested that  curricula is                                                               
best left  to the  discretion of  local jurisdictions  to develop                                                               
and implement the most effective curricula for their community.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD  NAVITSKY, MD,  Director,  Pediatric Emergency  Medicine,                                                               
Providence Health  & Services,  testified in  support of  HB 181.                                                               
He echoed the messages conveyed in  the MHATS video audio, and he                                                               
explained   that  the   emergency   department   is  the   "final                                                               
destination" for  youth that have  had mental health issues.   He                                                               
referred to Center for Disease  Control and Prevention (CDC) data                                                               
that reflects  a 31  percent increase in  the total  suicide rate                                                               
from  2001-2017  across  all  age groups,  and  in  teenagers  in                                                               
particular.   He suggested  that peer to  peer support  and early                                                               
intervention  is  beneficial to  youth  mental  health and  could                                                               
reduce morbidity  and mortality  associated with suicide,  and in                                                               
turn would result in lower health costs.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:29:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND  thanked Dr. Navitsky for  his expert testimony                                                               
and  invited him  to  contact the  legislature  to offer  invited                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:29:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRIS EICHENLAUB testified  that he was unsure that a  bill is the                                                               
most  appropriate  mechanism  through  which  to  address  mental                                                               
illness among youth in Alaska.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:32:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND closed public testimony HB 181.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:32:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR DRUMMOND announced that HB 181 was held over.                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 155 AK Career Technical Education Plan Addendum 2018.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 AK Postsecondary Education Commission Letter of Support.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 ACSA Letter of Support.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 AK CTE Newsletter 2020.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 EED ACPE 2.10.20 Fiscal Note.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 JDHS CTE Highlights Feb 2020.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 EED SSA 2.10.20 Fiscal Note.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Juneau School District Letter of Support.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Complete Commmittee Packet 2.19.2020.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Resolution - support.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Letter of Support, MatSu S.D..pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Sponsor Statement 2.17.20.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 State CTE infographic _2020_.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 TMHS CTE Highlight Feb 2020.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB155 Additional Document-AK Career Clusters.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB155 Additional Document-Alaska CTE Graduation rates.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 155 Ver. A.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB155 modified APS-Award-Checklist.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 155
HB 181 Additional Emails Received by 2.18.20.pdf HEDC 2/19/2020 8:00:00 AM
HB 181